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Should developed countries help third world countries such as Africa
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| SpecOps |
Posted on 10/06/2012 06:37:15
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Ninja and I had a conversation about a debating -md- earlier today and he pointed out numerous flaws and lack of enthusiasm about the idea. We then ventured on towards how debates are rather interesting and positive experiences that make you practice life skills. Then i bought up how doing a debate a few years ago in school completely changed my opinion and mind set. The topic was "Should developed countries help third world countries such as Africa in terms of produce, medical help, financial help, and manufacturing", ninja believed it was an interesting topic and suggested that I make a thread about it so here goes.
Should developed countries help third world countries such as Africa in terms of supplying produce, medical help, financial help, and manufacturing. Post your beliefs and ideas about this topic below and please refrain from spamming |
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Posted on 10/06/2012 08:26:04
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I don't believe we have any particular social or moral obligation to help less economically developed countries. That said, it reflects well on your society if you're willing to help others. Perhaps some day the favour would be returned to you.
I think that helping those in less fortunate situations should be a choice - the government doesn't have a right to spend taxpayers' money on a completely different country which won't really affect you. In this sense, then, developed countries shouldn't help less developed countries.
However, there is nothing wrong with charities (e.g. NGOs) which aim to support those in need. In fact, I have a huge amount of respect for those who donate time or money to such an organisation.
What's your opinion on the matter?


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| The Hat of Love |
Posted on 10/06/2012 09:17:43
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I think that the gap between first and third world countries (even though I'm using that incorrectly) is one of the biggest problems in the world today. I always really respect charities that try to help people in Africa like Comic Relief and Christian Aid (which I help out with sometimes, despite not being Christian) because conditions in some places are pretty awful and we're lucky to live in parts of the world where life is much easier.
I think that we do have something of a moral obligation to help people less fortunate. That's why I give change to people on the street and why I give to charities. No, alright, I haven't exactly devoted my life savings but, practically, it's something that everyone needs to help with. One person can't make a difference unless they happen to be extremely rich.
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Posted on 10/06/2012 09:41:11
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We SHOULD help others for their basic needs:
-Water
-Food
-Shelter
-Clothing
-Healthcare
-Sanitation
-Education
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| The Hat of Love |
Posted on 10/06/2012 10:02:40
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ZA Code wrote:
I believe that they are kept poor on purpose. ... If those countries would be as rich as us the whole economy would collapse.
Wait, what?
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Posted on 10/06/2012 10:09:01
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The Hat of Love wrote:
ZA Code wrote:
I believe that they are kept poor on purpose. ... If those countries would be as rich as us the whole economy would collapse.
Wait, what?
Yes please rephrase, sounds interesting... |
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Posted on 10/06/2012 11:03:08
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I believe that any individual with a little extra should help those who cannot help themselves. I think any country that can take care of its own and still have some left over should help those less fortunate. I do not think the US is in any position to be sending aid to other countries.

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Posted on 10/06/2012 11:07:21
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There are tons of psychological negative effects that can be caused by helping people. Being helped can simply make you more needy.
But nobody should have to live with no basic needs. Corporations have taken away water and basic food from millions of people. The least we can do is pay those people back for letting the corporations we buy products from use all of their land.
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| The Hat of Love |
Posted on 10/06/2012 11:34:46
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Corporations take away food and water? No, they never had food and water. Dont' think corporations have much to do with it.
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Posted on 10/06/2012 12:44:49
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As for the US, when we start to get the governments budget under control and our umpteen trillion dollar national debt under control then we can talk about sending money to the people in "underdeveloped" countries. Before that I think we should cut all foreign aid coming out of the US.
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| The Hat of Love |
Posted on 10/06/2012 12:53:11
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Instead of cutting foreign aid, perhaps cut back on the military. I know America tends to quite like its army but isn't it something like half the entire budget? It's ridiculous, especially since the US is generally deploying soldiers in places they're not really needed or places that have nothing to do with Americaland. the US could just stop sending soldiers and start sending money. I feel that might be a more effective use of money.
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Posted on 10/06/2012 13:28:23
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yeah and stop giving money to Israel.
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Posted on 10/06/2012 20:04:39
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A quote that dudeman reminded me of i thought was rather relevent in this scenario, "give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he will eat everyday". So would maybe sending knowledge be more prosperous then sending physical aid? |
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| The Hat of Love |
Posted on 10/07/2012 08:08:56
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Give a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
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Posted on 10/07/2012 08:25:50
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O.o ^
Well I believe EVERY human should have a clean source of water, food, and education, that's it. Trust me, they will go very far if they try their best. |
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Posted on 10/14/2012 16:56:53
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The Hat of Love wrote:
Instead of cutting foreign aid, perhaps cut back on the military. I know America tends to quite like its army but isn't it something like half the entire budget? It's ridiculous, especially since the US is generally deploying soldiers in places they're not really needed or places that have nothing to do with Americaland. the US could just stop sending soldiers and start sending money. I feel that might be a more effective use of money.
The American Military is literally the only thing that considers America to still be the supreme leader in the world today.
If one would cut the funding to the military, someone else would rise to power (i.e. China) and America does like to keep it's power. :\ |
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Posted on 10/14/2012 18:28:50
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ZA Code wrote:
I believe that they are kept poor on purpose. I dont believe that the most of the money we send them actually arrive at the people who need it the most. If those countries would be as rich as us the whole economy would collapse.
I dont know if this is right and ofcourse I support medical help and things that are actually given personally to the people who need it
i agree with yyou 10000% |
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Posted on 10/15/2012 08:25:01
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tim wrote:
The Hat of Love wrote:
Instead of cutting foreign aid, perhaps cut back on the military. I know America tends to quite like its army but isn't it something like half the entire budget? It's ridiculous, especially since the US is generally deploying soldiers in places they're not really needed or places that have nothing to do with Americaland. the US could just stop sending soldiers and start sending money. I feel that might be a more effective use of money.
The American Military is literally the only thing that considers America to still be the supreme leader in the world today.
If one would cut the funding to the military, someone else would rise to power (i.e. China) and America does like to keep it's power. :\
Well if America is taken out of the picture, the world would be in chaos. |
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| The Hat of Love |
Posted on 10/15/2012 11:21:40
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ZA BrickSquad wrote:
tim wrote:
The Hat of Love wrote:
Instead of cutting foreign aid, perhaps cut back on the military. I know America tends to quite like its army but isn't it something like half the entire budget? It's ridiculous, especially since the US is generally deploying soldiers in places they're not really needed or places that have nothing to do with Americaland. the US could just stop sending soldiers and start sending money. I feel that might be a more effective use of money.
The American Military is literally the only thing that considers America to still be the supreme leader in the world today.
If one would cut the funding to the military, someone else would rise to power (i.e. China) and America does like to keep it's power. :\
Well if America is taken out of the picture, the world would be in chaos.
Debatable.
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Posted on 10/15/2012 12:52:29
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ShawnPeezy

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The Hat of Love wrote:
ZA BrickSquad wrote:
tim wrote:
The Hat of Love wrote:
Instead of cutting foreign aid, perhaps cut back on the military. I know America tends to quite like its army but isn't it something like half the entire budget? It's ridiculous, especially since the US is generally deploying soldiers in places they're not really needed or places that have nothing to do with Americaland. the US could just stop sending soldiers and start sending money. I feel that might be a more effective use of money.
The American Military is literally the only thing that considers America to still be the supreme leader in the world today.
If one would cut the funding to the military, someone else would rise to power (i.e. China) and America does like to keep it's power. :\
Well if America is taken out of the picture, the world would be in chaos.
Debatable.
You British really don't like Americans don't ya? Lol.
Edited by ZA BrickSquad on 10/15/2012 12:56:59 |
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