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Debate 2: The Death Penalty
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| Dudeman |
Posted on 02/17/2012 01:23:21
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@Carnage: I saw the gorilla right away 
About the death penalty yes I totally support it. For people 100% against it look up Jeffery Dahlmer and other screwed up people. People say just send them to prison for life.....Why eat up our taxes to help keep alive someone who clearly does not deserve to live?
Two wrongs do not make a right. Not killing a person who is a serial killer would be wrong. He would kill again, and our system could have prevented it.
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| ZA BlackAdder |
Posted on 02/17/2012 01:45:46
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every who gets more than 20 years in prison should be killed imo. we could use that money for somethin else.
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| ZA reaper |
Posted on 02/17/2012 07:09:04
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btw anyone for annexing brazil and sending all our criminals there?
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| FC_SlimJim |
Posted on 02/17/2012 08:00:49
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Did you know that in Texas they have a law that if you are convicted of Murder or other Heinous crimes with more than 3 credible witnesses you dont sit on death row for 15 years? you go strait to the front of the line. Other states are trying to Abolish the Death Penalty, Texas is putting in an express lane. +3000
here is my view,
A person convicted of Murder, proven beyond any chance of appeal, even having a guilty plee. Would sit in jail for 20+ years, (life sentence), waste countless tax dollars, and on top of that he would die from the combined factors of old age, shitty food, mental decay, and institutionalization.
tell me whats worse, Putting a Murder out of his misery of the imminent death or extended low grade torture for the rest of his life?
Hell, the majority of the Members of Death Row only appeal their cases till the death date, and (if the numbers are correct in memory) 86% never win any appeal. also wasting funds and time while doing so. |
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| ninja |
Posted on 02/17/2012 08:30:53
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I think I'm against the death penalty because it seems kind of hypocritical to me. It's like saying "Oh you can't kill people ... but we can." I think if the government sets laws, they should follow them too.
It's a really tough call though, and there are lots of good reasons either way. A lot of people seem to raise the case that keeping people locked up uses up a lot of money, although I heard that the methods used for taking people's lives can be pretty expensive.
I don't know how much of the US has the death penalty, but we don't have it here in the UK and I doubt we will any time soon.
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| FC_SlimJim |
Posted on 02/17/2012 09:22:28
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well then we can simplify the death penalty.
Startup cost of $400 for a decent weapon
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$0.45 per Bullet used (on avg)
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0.45x+400 = y
x = to be killed
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| ZA reaper |
Posted on 02/17/2012 09:25:57
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or we can annex brazil give them gravityhammers and let them fight it out
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| The Hat of Love |
Posted on 02/17/2012 09:28:09
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ZA Bvigil wrote:
we should take some large empty island put a huge wall around it and just ship all criminals their and let them make their own crimunity and it would be the new hit TV show
Britain did that a couple of hundred years ago.
It was called Australia.
Though obviously it wasn't a TV show.
Yea, I'm against death penalty. As has been pointed out, you can't say 'You're not allowed to kill but the state can.'
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| ZA reaper |
Posted on 02/17/2012 09:30:47
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actually the death penalty could be covered or the evil defense(its the defense where one must do an evil act to stop a greater evil suck as burning the area are the forest fire so it cant spread) LAWYERED
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| ZA reaper |
Posted on 02/17/2012 09:31:49
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and look at how well australia is doing that WE SHOULD PUT THEM ON THE MOON!!!!!!! THAT WAY WE CAN EXECUTE PPL AND HAVE A SPACE PROGRAM
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| The Hat of Love |
Posted on 02/17/2012 09:33:43
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You want to execute all Australian by putting them on the moon?! WTF?!
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| ZA reaper |
Posted on 02/17/2012 09:35:22
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nononononono the criminals now that i think about it that would actually be a good idea then we could put the criminals on australia
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| ninja |
Posted on 02/17/2012 11:21:43
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But who should have the right to decide whether someone lives or dies? And what gives them this authority?
I'm not religious, but you could argue the choosing people's fate in this way is acting God.
You say that it's the lesser of two evils, which is a very valid point. However, we cannot know whether people will commit murder (or whatever other crime they've been condemned for) again. Who knows, maybe if we let them live they would discover a cure for cancer, saving billions of lives? I wouldn't call that evil.
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| RazNinjaMike |
Posted on 02/17/2012 13:45:03
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I'm for death pentely.... those bastard who slaughters many should lose the right to breathe another breath
za heystarface wrote:
You'll have to indian wrestle raz for that spot. and also, i know indian wrestle isn't a great term, but i don't know what else to call it.
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He wants to be founder/president I believe. Not leader 
Exactly. Though remember creator/founder/president get say over leader!
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| RAGE |
Posted on 02/17/2012 13:59:48
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I reckon That there should be a death penalty for ANYBODY who has 100% committed murder or somewhere on those lines (Serial killers, 1st time kills ECT.)
Even if they have a religion that should not matter, the death penalty should stay in place. The jury shouldn't be able to choose if the man is innocent since he is 100% guilty of being a killer, if the 100% is proven then straight to death.
But I am against "Bailing" people out of prison, they need to serve their time for what they have done like assault and other minor stuff.
And also if someone is caught of being 100% thief, they should have their time in prison and also let the police *take* whatever they have in their house that cost the same amount of stuff the thief stole.
People never learn, they just do it again but try and avoiding it, I think these laws should be in place. |
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| tim |
Posted on 02/17/2012 15:19:10
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ninja wrote:
But who should have the right to decide whether someone lives or dies? And what gives them this authority?
I'm not religious, but you could argue the choosing people's fate in this way is acting God.
You say that it's the lesser of two evils, which is a very valid point. However, we cannot know whether people will commit murder (or whatever other crime they've been condemned for) again. Who knows, maybe if we let them live they would discover a cure for cancer, saving billions of lives? I wouldn't call that evil.
I support the death penalty.
Who gives the murderer the right to cruelly decide who lives and dies? Who chooses what to kill? We kill cows and chickens for us to eat, so we're basically being God cause we decided a living things fate?
I also seriously doubt a mental sociopathic murder-fetish serial killer would have the mental ability to conjure up a cure for cancer or have the compassion to save billions of lives when he's probably killed more lives than he may even be able to save.
I believe the death penalty is a necessary evil to keep those who deserve to die for commiting a heinous atrocity to the good of society. Look at Hitler for example, if he was alive when the allies captured him, do you honestly believe the public would want such a bastard to just "rot in a jail cell?". Of course not everybody would want him to be dead.
I find it degrading that an honest hard working person has to pay out of his/her own wallet for someone like a murderer to sit in a jail cell so he can live.
Imagine if someone killed somebody you loved? No doubt anybody would want who is responsible to die. The death penalty is in place to make people think twice about killing another person. But even so, us being humans and savages on the inside, we simply choose to ignore this rule. Death happens all the time. I think the U.S.A. has it easy compared to places like Africa when it comes to death penalty. |
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| Drkinferno |
Posted on 02/17/2012 18:07:28
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the death penalty must be given. how dare murderers, rapists, and other scumbags of filth think that they may have a get out of shit card. in jail they can just get out and kill, rape, and pillage more and "so what they're just gonna keep in" WRONG. however i say a better punishment is instead to drop them off in shark infested waters, those that make it, get to go free... if... |
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| ZA BrickSquad |
Posted on 02/17/2012 20:25:11
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First of all, I'm gonna try no to type too much.
I support the death penalty...but.... it has to be only done with real serious people.
Such as:
-Serial Killers
-Spree Killers
-Terrorists
-Sexual Predators (Victims under 18)
-Etc.
You get my point?
For example: Lets say if one day you commit murder, but it was out of anger/revenge such as for a family member. Or your first time being convicted of a felony. You get where I'm going?
Like for the capital punishment (death penalty) the cases need to meet certain requirements for it. Cuz we all know the system is not perfect.
Guys and girls, seriously, put yourselves in these people shoes, yes you have committed crime. But dam, your locked up with no rights or freedom, and then you expect the day they will execute and you can't really do nothing about it.
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| MasterA |
Posted on 02/19/2012 02:38:55
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FC_SlimJim wrote:
well then we can simplify the death penalty.
Startup cost of $400 for a decent weapon
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$0.45 per Bullet used (on avg)
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0.45x+400 = y
x = to be killed
y = total cost.
I lol'd
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| The Hat of Love |
Posted on 02/19/2012 05:23:31
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Hmm, using algebra to kill people? I like it...
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