I think it's because of AMD's HD 7500 series graphics card is the main reason why Hobo is disliking it, lol. Hobo is more of an intel and nVidia fanboy too. xD
I know it is a pre-built because of the fact that nobody would buy an AMD Radeon HD 7500 series card for any reason whatsoever.
Also, I am not a fanboy of any company, despite what I own. I own NVidia and Intel because I am able to afford it. AMD kicks ass if you are on a budget.
Dudeman wrote:
$129.99 AMD 6 core Processor
$164.99 AMD Radeon 2gb GFX card
$149.99 10GB of Ram
$229.99 My monitor
$159.99 A compcase
Total Already: $839.95 and that is excluding all the other shit I don't know to buy (power supply)... These prices are from www.newegg.com Since I bought the monitor separate from the CPU I just know what I paid. Also that's excluding tax and shipping.
P.S. not overclocking it, but my PC I'm guessing would have come out to $800 buying it or building it either way (Just components not monitors or accessories)
P.P.S. I probably would have bought this one. Had it been out, when I had bought my pc...http://www.bestbuy.com/site/envy-phoenix-desktop-16gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive/9272105.p?id=1219010358626&skuId=9272105&st=hp%20envy%20desktop&cp=1&lp=2
The information you gave about your hardware isn't necessarily relevant.
More cores doesn't mean more power.
VRAM on a graphics card doesn't mean that much about a graphics card. I could have a GPU with 1GB of VRAM but that doesn't matter if it's faster than Titan. (this is theoretical).
10GB of RAM is an odd number, but whatever. (That isn't dual-channel or quad-channel though).
Also, your case better wipe your own ass if you paid $160 for it. That thing better have the most godlike features. I was close to getting the HAF X ($200 full tower), but I believe it is worth the price due to its superior airflow and excellent management.
Also, for $800, you could get a build with a 7970/R9 280X (maybe even R9 290), or a GTX 770!
ZA Bvigil wrote:
I'd suggest a custom build either by yourself or from a website it tends to cost the same if not less than a prebuilt counterpart and you can really get top of the line parts take my current buildwhich i do not have with me simply because i don't trust people my things
it cost i believe the same as my roommates MUCH worse desktop computer
it's just a better idea
also dual titans guys
dual
titans
it's like the best thing since sliced bread
Too bad your Titans are inferior to the new GTX 780 Ti's that are coming out in two days. Let the butthurt flow through you. Also, I am going to laugh when they (more than likely) drop the price of Titan, since it is outperformed by a cheaper card. They may not drop its price, as it is still great for people with high-resolution monitor(s).
Edited by Hobo on 11/05/2013 22:16:18
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I think it's because of AMD's HD 7500 series graphics card is the main reason why Hobo is disliking it, lol. Hobo is more of an intel and nVidia fanboy too. xD
I know it is a pre-built because of the fact that nobody would buy an AMD Radeon HD 7500 series card for any reason whatsoever.
Also, I am not a fanboy of any company, despite what I own. I own NVidia and Intel because I am able to afford it. AMD kicks ass if you are on a budget.
Dudeman wrote:
$129.99 AMD 6 core Processor
$164.99 AMD Radeon 2gb GFX card
$149.99 10GB of Ram
$229.99 My monitor
$159.99 A compcase
Total Already: $839.95 and that is excluding all the other shit I don't know to buy (power supply)... These prices are from www.newegg.com Since I bought the monitor separate from the CPU I just know what I paid. Also that's excluding tax and shipping.
P.S. not overclocking it, but my PC I'm guessing would have come out to $800 buying it or building it either way (Just components not monitors or accessories)
P.P.S. I probably would have bought this one. Had it been out, when I had bought my pc...http://www.bestbuy.com/site/envy-phoenix-desktop-16gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive/9272105.p?id=1219010358626&skuId=9272105&st=hp%20envy%20desktop&cp=1&lp=2
The information you gave about your hardware isn't necessarily relevant.
More cores doesn't mean more power.
VRAM on a graphics card doesn't mean that much about a graphics card. I could have a GPU with 1GB of VRAM but that doesn't matter if it's faster than Titan. (this is theoretical).
10GB of RAM is an odd number, but whatever. (That isn't dual-channel or quad-channel though).
Also, your case better wipe your own ass if you paid $160 for it. That thing better have the most godlike features. I was close to getting the HAF X ($200 full tower), but I believe it is worth the price due to its superior airflow and excellent management.
Also, for $800, you could get a build with a 7970/R9 280X (maybe even R9 290), or a GTX 770!
ZA Bvigil wrote:
I'd suggest a custom build either by yourself or from a website it tends to cost the same if not less than a prebuilt counterpart and you can really get top of the line parts take my current buildwhich i do not have with me simply because i don't trust people my things
it cost i believe the same as my roommates MUCH worse desktop computer
it's just a better idea
also dual titans guys
dual
titans
it's like the best thing since sliced bread
Too bad your Titans are inferior to the new GTX 780 Ti's that are coming out in two days. Let the butthurt flow through you. Also, I am going to laugh when they (more than likely) drop the price of Titan, since it is outperformed by a cheaper card. They may not drop its price, as it is still great for people with high-resolution monitor(s).
The god card Titan has been defeated by a Titanium. xD
The only thing better about a Titan and 780 is really the 6gb of VRAM found on the Titan. The GPU performance is pretty similar... If you're good at overclocking you can match the performance or improve over the performance of Titan with the 780. @Bvigil, 2 Titans? Really? Overkill much? Or do you just have to much money?
Honestly I only planned on getting one titan but they doubled my order for some reason and i just went with it
as a result i also have 18 gigs of ram on the computer just cause lol
ZA EZrab wrote:
The only thing better about a Titan and 780 is really the 6gb of VRAM found on the Titan. The GPU performance is pretty similar... If you're good at overclocking you can match the performance or improve over the performance of Titan with the 780. @Bvigil, 2 Titans? Really? Overkill much? Or do you just have to much money?
YouTube Video
^ Skip to 6 minutes of the video. Even the normal nVidia's GTX 780 beats AMD's best: R290X. So imagine how GTX 780 Ti edition will turn out to be. All I have to say to that is R.I.P AMD yet again. First, they failed on improving their CPU's to beat intel and now nVidia has surpassed them in GPU technology. If ATi was still around, it would've at least gave a major competition to nVidia just like the old times, but too bad ATi is no more. :/
ZA EZrab wrote:
The only thing better about a Titan and 780 is really the 6gb of VRAM found on the Titan. The GPU performance is pretty similar... If you're good at overclocking you can match the performance or improve over the performance of Titan with the 780. @Bvigil, 2 Titans? Really? Overkill much? Or do you just have to much money? :O
YouTube Video
^ Skip to 6 minutes of the video. Even the normal nVidia's GTX 780 beats AMD's best: R290X. So imagine how GTX 780 Ti edition will turn out to be. :D All I have to say to that is R.I.P AMD yet again. First, they failed on improving their CPU's to beat intel and now nVidia has surpassed them in GPU technology. If ATi was still around, it would've at least gave a major competition to nVidia just like the old times, but too bad ATi is no more. :/
@Ezrab
As I said before, VRAM doesn't mean shit. My OC'd 780 (factory overclocked to 1GHz) outperforms stock Titan, despite it having 3GB of VRAM, as opposed to Titan's 6GB.
@Vulture
NVidia fanboy much?
Flaws with this:
1. Nvidia has had much more time to optimize their drivers for those games (despite the games being optimized for AMD).
2. R9 290X is meant for high-resolution gaming.
3. AMD kicks ass for budgets and has the best price:performance ratio around. They are the ones I'm thanking for dropping the price of GTX 780s.
Edited by Hobo on 11/06/2013 20:17:48
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Yeah, I am now. I used to be ATi/AMD fan till I finally noticed how terrible its graphics drivers are. So now I'm switching over to nVidia as I read good reviews about it. Paying extra high price does pay off for best performance. intel + nVidia FTW!
Ya I paid for both and didn't return em because i figured i'd just make another build with the extra one at a later point in time same with the extra ram but for now they're in one comp
no pics next time i go home i'll take a picture of the outside and inside for you guys
ZA Bvigil wrote:
Ya I paid for both and didn't return em because i figured i'd just make another build with the extra one at a later point in time same with the extra ram but for now they're in one comp
no pics next time i go home i'll take a picture of the outside and inside for you guys
ZA EZrab wrote:
The only thing better about a Titan and 780 is really the 6gb of VRAM found on the Titan. The GPU performance is pretty similar... If you're good at overclocking you can match the performance or improve over the performance of Titan with the 780. @Bvigil, 2 Titans? Really? Overkill much? Or do you just have to much money?
YouTube Video
^ Skip to 6 minutes of the video. Even the normal nVidia's GTX 780 beats AMD's best: R290X. So imagine how GTX 780 Ti edition will turn out to be. All I have to say to that is R.I.P AMD yet again. First, they failed on improving their CPU's to beat intel and now nVidia has surpassed them in GPU technology. If ATi was still around, it would've at least gave a major competition to nVidia just like the old times, but too bad ATi is no more. :/
@Ezrab
As I said before, VRAM doesn't mean shit. My OC'd 780 (factory overclocked to 1GHz) outperforms stock Titan, despite it having 3GB of VRAM, as opposed to Titan's 6GB.
@Vulture
NVidia fanboy much?
Flaws with this:
1. Nvidia has had much more time to optimize their drivers for those games (despite the games being optimized for AMD).
2. R9 290X is meant for high-resolution gaming.
3. AMD kicks ass for budgets and has the best priceerformance ratio around. They are the ones I'm thanking for dropping the price of GTX 780s.
@Hobo, I know that. I was just stating the differences as there is hardly any. @Vulture, I saw that video a while ago. Recently Linus put out a video of the other 290 (none x) which beat the 290x and it is suppose to be not as good... That specific one in that review was a bad overclocker as they overclock all their cards for benchmarks and the 780 was also overclocked and it just so happened that that 780 overclocked better than the 290x... At stock clock speeds I'm pretty sure they go back and forth with each other. They put out a video the other day saying what happened with that card. You have to remember the new amd cards have only just come out and the drivers are not yet optimized... Also the higher the resolution gets when using the 290x the better the performance is. Forgot to mention that when the new amd cards come out with aftermarket coolers they will only get better. Here's the video:
YouTube Video
Edited by ZA EZrab on 11/07/2013 03:09:59
So the "AMD" brand of the R290 crap wasn't overclocked while the 780 in the video was, is what you're trying to say? Since you said they overclocked all the cards for the benchmark performance scores, then that R290 must've been overclocked too. And yet I read the GTX 780 still being the superior and dominant king of GPU. Also why would anyone want to over exceed and play PC games with big ass screen resolution such as 5760x1080? That's like saying hooking up a PC to a TV. I think a 27" monitor is enough for being used in PC gaming. Remember, I used to be an AMD fan, but then I took an arrow to the knee. xD I love nVidia. <3
Vulture wrote:
Also why would anyone want to over exceed and play PC games with big ass screen resolution such as 5760x1080? That's like saying hooking up a PC to a TV. I think a 27" monitor is enough for being used in PC gaming.
No offense, but this is the most hilariously stupid thing you have ever said.
5760x1080 is definitely not a single monitor. That's a multi-monitor setup. Gamers, especially the hardcore enthusiasts with thousands of dollars to spend, have multi-monitor gaming rigs.
Edited by Hobo on 11/08/2013 17:04:19
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I love my two monitors. I think 3 might would be a bit of overkill and i wouldn't be able to fit it on my desk, but now that I have had two, I wouldn't go back to just one monitor. I even made the IT guy at work give me a second monitor because that's how much I love it.
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Vulture wrote:
Also why would anyone want to over exceed and play PC games with big ass screen resolution such as 5760x1080? That's like saying hooking up a PC to a TV. I think a 27" monitor is enough for being used in PC gaming.
No offense, but this is the most hilariously stupid thing you have ever said.
5760x1080 is definitely not a single monitor. That's a multi-monitor setup. Gamers, especially the hardcore enthusiasts with thousands of dollars to spend, have multi-monitor gaming rigs.
I never said play on 5760x1080 resolution on a single monitor. All I said was that AMD mostly supports gaming for bigger resolution and for gaming experience, you don't need 2 or 3 monitors hooked up just to view the gameplay screen. A single 27" monitor is enough for a good view with a bigger resolution.
So the "AMD" brand of the R290 crap wasn't overclocked while the 780 in the video was, is what you're trying to say? Since you said they overclocked all the cards for the benchmark performance scores, then that R290 must've been overclocked too. And yet I read the GTX 780 still being the superior and dominant king of GPU. Also why would anyone want to over exceed and play PC games with big ass screen resolution such as 5760x1080? That's like saying hooking up a PC to a TV. I think a 27" monitor is enough for being used in PC gaming. Remember, I used to be an AMD fan, but then I took an arrow to the knee. xD I love nVidia. <3
I never said it wasn't overclocked. Read again please. And it performs better in resolutions such as 4k... That one you said is only 1080p -_-
All I have to say to that is R.I.P AMD yet again. First, they failed on improving their CPU's to beat intel and now nVidia has surpassed them in GPU technology. If ATi was still around, it would've at least gave a major competition to nVidia just like the old times, but too bad ATi is no more. :/
erformance ratio around. They are the ones I'm thanking for dropping the price of GTX 780s.
