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Debate 14: Alcohol Prohibition
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| ninja |
Posted on 05/18/2012 12:18:07
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UlricZalix wrote:
we tried it once as was said. it just made driking worse. lol i think its a bad thing to drink but if we made it illegal it would increase the amount of people using it cause its forbidden
No, no - you must have misread. This is banning alcohol - people CAN'T use it, trade it, make it - whatever. NO WAY does that increase the number of people drinking it - in fact, the number plummets to 0. So does the numbers of deaths due to alcohol, domestic abuse due to alcohol, relationships split up over alcohol etc. Road accidents wall fall, so will street crime, bar fights ... the list goes on.
Phoenix wrote:
Nope. America tried it once and history shows the results. You can argue we live in different times now, but in the end, humanity stays the same. History repeats itself. It will never be prohibited again. Just my little input.
It was tried once? Who gives up after their first attempt? If everyone did that, we'd never get anywhere. It's about time humanity moved forward. Yes, history repeats itself, but not if you do something about it. The dire social consequences of alcohol will continue to proliferate until we act to do something about it - to change the course of society and write our future.
I find your argument somewhat unconvincing, Drk.
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| Phoenix |
Posted on 05/18/2012 21:23:37
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Saw this once:
We thank our opponent for his insight but we negate the resolution that Resolved: Alcohol should be prohibited in the United States.
We offer the following framework:
The resolution asks where or not alcohol should be prohibited in the United States. We define the act of prohibiting alcohol as the act of eliminating all alcohol uses. We define the uses of alcohol as consumption, medical, and cleaning. In addition, our opponent may make claims that alcohol is harmful because after consuming alcohol, ill-advised adults perform illegal activity such as drunk driving. However, as the judge in today's debate, you cannot look to any effects of drunk driving as the actions of these individuals does not abide to the laws set out by the government, and thus these individuals cannot be controlled. There will always be an idiot that will abuse alcohol. The United States does not prohibit the production of cars because certain individuals decide to drive at 120 miles per hour. In the same way, prohibiting alcohol would be hurting the majority through the actions of individuals.
Contention 1: Benefits of Alcohol
At first thought, a bystander will see the word alcohol and immediately think of the abuse of alcohol. Never does one think of the innumerous benefits that are provided through the use of alcohol. Alcohol was considered so beneficiary that the Unites States Department of Agriculture finally took the first step to manifesting that alcohol is in fact a good thing. The USDA reports that "moderate drinking decreases the risk of heart attack by 20 to 40 percent and decreased stroke by 45 percent"[1]. On this point a lone, a vote for the negative is evident because cutting down the risk of a heart attack can be seen as a miracle seeing that more than 1.5 million Americans suffer for an almost always fatal heart attack. It is reported that there are total of 26,000 alcohol related deaths, which at first is a large number, but it is relatively small when compared to the number of lives that alcohol saves [2]. Alcohol can stop a phenomenal 600,000 heart attacks from happening and this far outweighs any negative impacts presented by the Affirmative. Furthermore, the USDA goes on to report that men that consume 5 to 10 drinks a week have a exceptionally less chance of developing Type 2 diabetes, a disease that plagues hundreds of thousands of Americans and leads to the deaths of many Americans. Finally, according to the New York Times, by consuming red wine, a form of alcohol, the drinker will be ingesting certain substances that will in fact extend his or her life[3].
Contention 2: Pleasure
When looking at today's debate, one must pose the question: Why is alcohol consumed? The clear answer is that alcohol is consumed for pleasure as 90% of alcohol is used in the form of drinking. You as the judge have consumed alcohol before, and if not now, then you will later. By voting affirmative, you will be taking away that ice cold beer that you have every Sunday while watching your favorite football team, or you may be taking away that enchanting red wine that you share with your spouse on Friday nights. Whatever the occasion may be, Alcohol is primarily used for pleasure, and by taking this pleasure away, the Affirmative team is taking up a fight with close to 100% of Americans above the age of 21. Alcohol is such a big part of American that almost every other commercial on TV is advertising for a beer or wine.
It is clear that banning alcohol is diverting the will of the American people and that any vote for the affirmative will be negating all of the said benefits of drinking alcohol. Thus we strongly urge a negative vote on today's debate.
Remember, an apple a day keeps the doctor away, but a glass of wine every day keeps your deathbed away.
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| PirateKing |
Posted on 05/19/2012 02:24:56
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i dont think you could ever ban the making of alcohal. people can make it from scratch at home. there is not eough law enforcement to enforce the banning of alcohal. lol
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| ninja |
Posted on 05/19/2012 07:13:05
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I don't see much point in copying somebody else's argument.
Interesting, though, that on the site from which you copied that the proposition (alcohol should be prohibited) won. (http://www.debate...States./1/)
I'll make a rebuttal if you write your own argument.
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| collegenet |
Posted on 05/23/2012 14:17:39
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GIVE ME MY ALCOHOL AT AGE 18.
sorry if im not as smart as you guys and cant debate without getting angry
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| The Hat of Love |
Posted on 05/23/2012 14:51:06
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ninja wrote:
Interesting, though, that on the site from which you copied that the proposition (alcohol should be prohibited) won. ( http://www.debate...States./1/).
I read through all of that and I still think that Con made a better argument; a few people might have been won over, I think, by Pro arrogantly saying 'his points don't stand' when he had refuted them with flawed logic.
Still, we're not here to debate a debate; I think that anyone undecided should check out that link.
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| Hotpot |
Posted on 05/31/2012 18:34:02
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I support prohibition of alcohol when I am sober. |
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| Matrix |
Posted on 05/31/2012 19:31:32
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i say yes becuz our bodies r "the temples of the holy spirit" according to the Bible...meaning that the holy spirit dwells within us....again, meaning we should take care of our bodies and as we alll know alcohol makes us drowsy and makes us do dumb things that not affect us but affect others around us 2
gosh that mite be 1 of the smartest things i've said
My mole rat army (MRA) is coming after anyone who likes ocelots.
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| The Hat of Love |
Posted on 05/31/2012 19:39:21
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It might be. But who knows.
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| ZA Luna |
Posted on 05/31/2012 19:48:13
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Matrix wrote:
i say yes becuz our bodies r "the temples of the holy spirit" according to the Bible...meaning that the holy spirit dwells within us....again, meaning we should take care of our bodies and as we alll know alcohol makes us drowsy and makes us do dumb things that not affect us but affect others around us 2
gosh that mite be 1 of the smartest things i've said You're right, we should take care of our bodies. But if this is your argument for prohibiting alcohol, then should we also ban candy, soda, and all that other stuff?
I think in Norway and those Scandinavian countries they make things like alcohol and cigarettes more expensive. Prompts people to not buy them so often without banning them outright.
Edited by ZA Luna on 05/31/2012 19:50:01
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| Matrix |
Posted on 06/01/2012 10:46:01
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that might work..ish...but "candy soda and alll the other stuff" is nothing much like alcohol
My mole rat army (MRA) is coming after anyone who likes ocelots.
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| The Hat of Love |
Posted on 06/01/2012 10:52:37
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If we have to take care of our bodies because they're Temples of the Holy Spirit then banning all junk food is a logical conclusion.
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| Matrix |
Posted on 06/01/2012 10:55:55
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but scientifically dark chocolate is good for u....so SOME r good 4 u...and its good sometimes to eat a lil bitof junk food here and there
My mole rat army (MRA) is coming after anyone who likes ocelots.
Ephesians 2:8
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| The Hat of Love |
Posted on 06/01/2012 10:59:54
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Yes and alcohol has also been proven to be good for you in moderation. It reduces the risk of heart disease. Your argument = invalid.
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| Matrix |
Posted on 06/01/2012 11:16:23
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but ppl drink it TOOO much....touche YOUR argumanet is invvalid
My mole rat army (MRA) is coming after anyone who likes ocelots.
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| stunt1man |
Posted on 06/01/2012 11:21:54
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beer is the best thing ever made on this planet Earth. period!
so now go and drink up!  and stop arguing jut enjoy!
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| Matrix |
Posted on 06/01/2012 11:31:08
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...theres only 1 type of beer that i like as a 13 year old..
root beer XD
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| stunt1man |
Posted on 06/01/2012 11:35:01
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Matrix wrote:
...theres only 1 type of beer that i like as a 13 year old..
root beer XD
you can also try ginger beer also known as ginger ale
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| The Hat of Love |
Posted on 06/01/2012 11:36:16
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People eat junk food too much.
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| Matrix |
Posted on 06/01/2012 11:57:16
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oh yea i also live ginger ale...didnt know it was called ginger beer
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